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Re: [ULF-1] Ulf-1 Digest, Vol 70, Issue 4
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- Member 118
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- 2018-06-11 20:37 UTC+01:00
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- #0608
Hi,
Just a point on sanding. Not recommended for the Member 60 surfaces, but an absolute must for plywood in order to remove the release agent that is generated in the manufacturing process from the surfaces to be glued otherwise there is a risk of failure. Give it a good brush after to remove the dust.
Regards,
Colin
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> On 11 Jun 2018, at 15:07, Member 121 <[email]> wrote:
>
> Sounds like i got dropped into this gluing surface preparation conversation .
> I thought you meant don't do it on the patio .
>
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: Member 50 <[email]>
> Date: 6/11/18 1:39 AM (GMT-07:00)
> To: [email]
> Subject: Re: [ULF-1] Ulf-1 Digest, Vol 70, Issue 4
>
> Double sided tape works well on long lengths
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ulf-1 [mailto:[redacted] On Behalf Of Austin
> Member 111
> Sent: 11 June 2018 02:20
> To: [email]
> Subject: Re: [ULF-1] Ulf-1 Digest, Vol 70, Issue 4
>
> Hi Greg.
>
> The instructions pretty clearly forbid the use of sanding to shape as it
> damages the fibers.
>
> I have a block plane but was wondering which other types of planes will be
> needed, and if a band saw can be used to get it roughed out first. I have
> ever seen nor used a toothing plane and would like information on who makes
> a good one and how to use it.
>
> As to planing, how do you restrain the workpiece during work? A vise with
> some Member 60 to keep the jaws from marring the grain.
>
> Thanks
>
> Austin
>
> > On Jun 10, 2018, at 6:12 PM, [email] wrote:
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> > 1. Gluing surface preparation (Member 111)
> > 2. Re: Gluing surface preparation (Member 121)
> > 3. Re: Gluing surface preparation (Member 121)
> > 4. Watch "ULF-1 Sailplane 2.part" on YouTube (Member 121)
> > 5. 120 thousandths of an inch . I used a knife to quicken the
> > flatening of the part alignment . (Member 121)
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> > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:58:42 -0600
> > From: Member 111 <[email]>
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> > Subject: [ULF-1] Gluing surface preparation
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> > Member 67 et al,
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> > Did you use a fine toothing plane to rough up all spruce and ply at the
> bonding areas? Could you describe your method of shaping parts with complex
> geometries like spar caps? Did you use a series of planes? Would you mind
> sharing what brand, type, and methodologies of cutting and sharpening them
> if so? Also for inspection, was a simple scale used to measure cap height
> and width or were calipers and more precise methods used? Thanks again for
> being so active and forthcoming with details about your great project.
> >
> > Austin
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:07:44 -0700
> > From: Member 121 <[email]>
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> > Subject: Re: [ULF-1] Gluing surface preparation
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> > I suppose sanding a connection flat so the gusset make good flat
> > contact first is easier with an electric sander .
> > Let the rudder or aileron diagonals extend long , and the cut all
> > with one pass of the saw to get perfect length on all at the same time .
> > I used a caliper type micrometer that measures inside or outside .
> > We have been using a hand plane 8 inches wide for scraping , shaving
> > ( or whatever it's called ) the hand made plywood of 3 layers
> > alternately grain direction I have to go
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018, 2:58 PM Member 111
> > <[email]>
> > wrote:
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> >> Member 67 et al,
> >>
> >> Did you use a fine toothing plane to rough up all spruce and ply at
> >> the bonding areas? Could you describe your method of shaping parts
> >> with complex geometries like spar caps? Did you use a series of
> >> planes? Would you mind sharing what brand, type, and methodologies of
> >> cutting and sharpening them if so? Also for inspection, was a simple
> >> scale used to measure cap height and width or were calipers and more
> >> precise methods used? Thanks again for being so active and forthcoming
> with details about your great project.
> >>
> >> Austin
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:19:01 -0700
> > From: Member 121 <[email]>
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> > Subject: Re: [ULF-1] Gluing surface preparation
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> > Epoxy can be stapled to hold parts . But removing staples is a good
> > idea when its cured or dry so the don't stain the Member 60
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018, 2:58 PM Member 111
> > <[email]>
> > wrote:
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> >> Member 67 et al,
> >>
> >> Did you use a fine toothing plane to rough up all spruce and ply at
> >> the bonding areas? Could you describe your method of shaping parts
> >> with complex geometries like spar caps? Did you use a series of
> >> planes? Would you mind sharing what brand, type, and methodologies of
> >> cutting and sharpening them if so? Also for inspection, was a simple
> >> scale used to measure cap height and width or were calipers and more
> >> precise methods used? Thanks again for being so active and forthcoming
> with details about your great project.
> >>
> >> Austin
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:45:12 -0700
> > From: Member 121 <[email]>
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> > Subject: [ULF-1] Watch "ULF-1 Sailplane 2.part" on YouTube
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> > Have you seen this video ? The ulf1 gets an engine near the end of
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> > Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:12:12 -0700
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