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Re: [ULF-1] Modern Adhesives vs Plan callouts

From
Member 18
Date
2018-03-26 17:14 UTC-06:00
Message
#0545
* I manufactured a set of Acro Sport Wings with FPL-16A Adhesive and 
found it to be an excellent adhesive, The thicker resin is brushed on 
one part and a thin watery part wiped on the other part to be joined 
then pressed together,*

This is NOT how to use FPL-16A. It is mixed 10 parts resin to 1 part 
hardener by weight, then applied to the surfaces to be joined. I believe 
what you describe is a technique for a resorcinol glue of some kind. 
BTW, FPL-16A, when mixed 10:1, is an excellent adhesive and most of 
today's commercially available epoxies owe a lot to its basic formulation.

Chris

>
> *Lonnie Prince*
> *
> *
> In a message dated [phone]:57:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> [email] writes:
>
>     Hi Austin, Welcome to the Build forum! We built all the airframe
>     components on our ULF-1 NT/E (stands for new technology and
>     electric motor powered) with System 3, T-88. We searched far and
>     wide and decided on this epoxy. The only thing we did not like was
>     the delta T on this glue. When you heat it up (needs to be heated
>     up a lot!), it loosens up. Now this can come in handy when you
>     make a mistake and have to take something apart! Saves having to
>     rebuild a whole assembly in some cases. We also liked that T-88
>     was a little bit more flexible when compared to West Systems
>     epoxy. We mixed up all our epoxy by weight using an electronic
>     gram scale. If you use too much hardener for example, the glue
>     will set up way too soft. Where we had to thicken the T-88 we used
>     cotton flox which is structural. We are using West Systems epoxy
>     on all the fiberglass parts such as the spoilers and fittings.
>     Hope this helps! Member 72 Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 26,
>     2018, at 4:23 PM, Member 111 <[email]
>     <mailto:[redacted]>> wrote: > > Hi again everyone.
>     > > I've noticed that the plans call for aerodux resorcinol urea
>     formaldehyde glue in the construction of ribs and even the spar
>     cap laminations. I've read of some other builders substituting
>     T-88 for all adhesives in the aircraft, and wanted to get other
>     ULF-1 builders' take on the question. > > Also, several parts of
>     the build manual call out "thickened" epoxy, but do not state the
>     ratio of thickener to epoxy. The use of cotton flakes which I take
>     to mean flox is also mentioned. Does Dieter intend to refer to
>     what ratio system 3 or West Systems recommend? > > Austin >
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